Self Leader podcast

Intro

You've tuned in to The Self Leader, A Peoplepreneur podcast. I'm Anks founder, host and self leadership coach. Get ready to forge your path forward. What awaits is an extraordinary existence, all of which is possible through your personal leadership. What if you were the reason for the change? Imagine the legacy you leave behind. The world needs you more than ever. There's a Peoplepreneur in you. And so it's time to take the lead. Your self leadership begins right now.

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00:00:41:17 - 00:01:05:08

Anks

Hey, if you're tuning in, Anks here, self leadership coach. Today's episode, the second episode of the Self Leader Podcast. We're going to talk about growth, because it's a key aspect to our self leadership. And often when I come to think about growth and if you can relate here, we're often thinking about growth from a perspective.

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00:01:05:09 - 00:01:34:18

Anks

When we're looking back, we might be thinking about where we've come from, how far we've come. What is the journey like? Perhaps it's outcomes or what we've achieved. And we're looking at growth in that sort of respect. Now, without a deeper understanding of the nature of growth, we might only be appreciating one side, and we can often neglect parts of a bigger piece here.

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00:01:34:20 - 00:02:02:03

Anks

And the main aim of this episode really is to bring some perspective and awareness around really, what is the bigger piece to growth here. So in this episode, we're going to be developing and exploring how we can build a better relationship with growth and how we can adapt lessons that life gives us with and align them to the actions that we choose to take.

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00:02:02:03 - 00:02:33:08

Anks

And so by the end of this episode, my aim is here to help you build this partnership with growth, to not only help you become the person that you want to be, but also become the person that you're meant to be. And the balance between the two pieces that make up growth is completely critical here. To make the most out of this episode, there is a resource that we've made available to you in the show notes.

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00:02:33:08 - 00:03:05:03

Anks

Go and take a look, but it's downloadable. I'm going to be referring to it throughout this episode, and it's filled with reflective questions, practical tools, insights, everything you need to start building your relationship with growth. It's something I call the Growth Adaptability chart. And there are systems and tools in there that's going to help you and allow you to create more meaningful shifts in your life.

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00:03:05:05 - 00:03:35:08

Anks

So in my early years, I didn't appreciate the relationship that I had to have with growth. I didn't know, I didn't appreciate what it meant. I didn't form that partnership. Why? Well, no one really told me. As anything, as we grow up, we are given understanding and information and knowledge. One of the key things in growth was that.

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00:03:35:10 - 00:04:05:06

Anks

Society deems a lot of growth to be reflective of achievements and outcomes. Perhaps it's materially inclined, but growth, it can be physical as well as it can be mental and spiritual. There are many areas of those that in even in our self leadership, we need to be focusing on multiple areas of that growth. And so I didn't have that appreciation.

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00:04:05:08 - 00:04:40:11

Anks

I learned it later on in life. Hence this episode I thought it's a really important episode, and I wanted to bring that to you as early as possible. As you can, listen to this episode. Now, if you're like anything like me growing up watching Disney cartoons, I love Disney. And there was a recent movie, through the collaboration of Disney Pixar called Soul, and I want to present this understanding of growth to you just through this perspective.

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00:04:40:13 - 00:04:57:16

Anks

And if you haven't watched the movie, I would suggest you go and watch. I watched it with my mom two days ago. She has never seen it and I thought it was a really powerful movie. She likes those type of deep meaning movies. Go and watch it. There might be some spoilers here, but the movie Soul has a double connotation.

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00:04:57:10 - 00:05:31:21

Anks

Soul meaning the spirit, our spirit, soul and soul. Because the promise of the movie has a character called Joe Gardner who loves jazz and he's a musician. And so it has that double connotation. And it's a really powerful movie because there is a scene in there. I don't want to spoil it too much, but there is a scene in there where Joe Gardner, who is really trying to pursue his passion for music and to really make it in the music industry, he through some intervention.

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00:05:31:21 - 00:05:54:04

Anks

He drops down a manhole and next thing you see, you see his soul because you can see his character, a reflection of his character in sort of soul spirit form and he's up in up in heaven. The they call it that. They don't mention heaven, but he's up in heaven and he's going through the process. He doesn’t want to pass away.

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00:05:54:04 - 00:06:16:19

Anks

So he does everything to try not to to at least get back into his body. Now, he's not really passed away here. He's just having this, outer body experience. Eventually, he comes to a designed world that they call the Great Before, and it's really powerful. And I've added this into this, this downloadable resource that you've got a just a picture of it.

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00:06:16:19 - 00:06:49:22

Anks

If you've not seen it, it's got the sort of calming nature of mountains and fields, and the tone of the color is is very pastel pink, purple, blue light. And you see a lot of little, little souls running around ready to take their journey in life. And it's really cool because there's a, there's, there's a section in that scene where there's this big black hole in the middle and this big black hole, all the all the little souls they’re hovering around just the edge.

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00:06:50:00 - 00:07:19:16

Anks

And what you come to realize and understand from the movies, once those souls are ready to take up life, they jump into that black hole and start descending to it. But before there is one, I'm telling you, this is before they go and descend to Earth. They go through various personality huts where they gain their spark, they gain their personality, they gain a certain characteristics of who they're going to be.

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00:07:19:18 - 00:07:41:16

Anks

And I thought it'd be a really cool way to illustrate what the conversation might sound like if I spoke to one of the counselors called Growth. What would I say? And here’s my adaptation, my thoughts.

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00:07:41:18 - 00:08:06:13

Counselor: Growth

Hi Anks, you are about to embark on life's journey. I'll be working with you in your development. Nice to meet you.

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Anks

Hi, Growth. Okay, sure. Can you share anything I need to know?

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Counselor: Growth

Absolutely. Know that growth is inevitable and everyone's life lessons come. But without your help, they can be wasted if not graphed and utilised. They are relevant to you.

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00:08:06:15 - 00:08:34:15

Anks

I'll try my best. But how so?

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Counselor: Growth

Understanding how I work is important. I appear in your journey in two ways. Number one, through your Intentions. And number two, through my Interventions. It's through your intentions. That allows you to take action towards your pursuits in life. Yet it needs my interventions to maximise the fruits of that journey.

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00:08:34:17 - 00:08:45:02

Anks

Ah I see, okay. Thank you. I'm glad I have you to co-create with me.

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Counselor: Growth

It's my duty and a pleasure to do so, Anks.

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00:08:45:04 - 00:09:14:06

Anks

Wow, what a powerful conversation that would be. Just imagine there for a second. Visually play with me here. Imagine if I got hold of, growth playbook, and I took a chapter out from there. And before I jumped into that black hole descending towards Earth, I have the playbook in hand. Well, the downloadable acts as that playbook. So go ahead and download it.

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00:09:14:08 - 00:09:39:15

Anks

Follow along with me, because we're going to go dive a little bit more deeper into that playbook. Now the key things here that growth taught us was there is intention which is ours, the things that we want to do. And there is intervention, which is things that you probably hear that you can't control. But I want you to see them as interventions.

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00:09:39:17 - 00:10:16:08

Anks

Now, if you look into that downloadable document, what you'll find there is something called what I've called Growth Adaptability Chart. And that adaptability chart is, in essence, teaching us how adaptable we are in integrating both parts of intention and intervention. And so what is intention and intervention. Well, the key thing here is growth comes in two forms.

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00:10:16:10 - 00:10:51:17

Anks

One is a voluntary form, which is our intentions, the things we choose to do. We choose it, we decide it, we pursue it. The book we want to read, the career we want to take, the car we want to drive, the holiday we want to enjoy, and then there is involuntary aspect, which is the intervention. And that involuntary is, well, what life sends us, the surprises, the unexpected diversions, setbacks, delays, maybe rejection.

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00:10:51:21 - 00:11:21:19

Anks

Now, these are very hard words for many people. Think of them from a third perspective. Don't attach yourselves to these words. But these are in a sense, the involuntary aspects of growth. Now, what you'll notice in the resource, it's how adaptable we are in involuntary and voluntary adoption. And there's a graph there which I'm gonna explain the graph, a very simple graph for those that haven't downloaded you perhaps are listening.

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00:11:21:19 - 00:11:47:06

Anks

So I'll try to do my best to explain the chart. It's a very simple chart with an x-axis that goes is a horizontal line goes from left to right, and then there is a y-axis which is the vertical line goes from the top to the bottom and there's an intersection there. That intersection now creates four quadrants.

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00:11:47:08 - 00:12:33:03

Anks

Think of it like a two by two. And depending on where you are on that quadrant, based on what you're trying to overcome, growth is really trying to teach us how great our relationship with growth is, how effective really we are at integrating both the involuntary and voluntary adoption. I want to share a story with you. It's a personal story, one that involves a group of people who broke into my house and had the family standing on the landing with a knife held at them, as a means to shed light and perspective, to make these quadrants; these state of adoptions, a little more concrete for you.

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00:12:33:04 - 00:12:57:08

Anks

But before I do that, I want to explore the four quadrants, the states. So as I briefly explain each quadrant, know that in the playbook there's further details and explanation on each, along with prompts to figure out where you are. For now, just reflect on where you think you might be and how you might want to move forward.

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00:12:57:10 - 00:13:23:03

Anks

We have, bottom left hand corner of that two-by-two is state of Stuckness. We move to the top left hand corner, which is the state of Coping. We move to the bottom right hand corner, which is the state of Misalignment. And finally, the state we all ought to be thriving towards is the state to the top right and corner, which is the state of Flow.

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00:13:23:05 - 00:13:55:20

Anks

Okay. So if we get into the first one state of stuckness, that is an acronym of L/L, which is low involuntary adoption as well as low voluntary adoption. And the way I've described this state is it's where growth feels stagnant and the life lessons might go unnoticed. Or perhaps we're ignoring them. And there is very little in terms of the low voluntary, there is very little intentional effort being placed towards progress.

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00:13:55:22 - 00:14:26:12

Anks

People in this state often usually feel immobilised, perhaps overwhelmed, and there might be some sort of inertia creeping in, but they repeating old habits and no change really is taking place. Possibly you might be lacking motivation, or you might have a tendency to avoid discomfort and challenges. Often in this state, people tend to blame the external environment. External factors.

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00:14:26:14 - 00:15:01:08

Anks

The mindset for this state perhaps might be, you know, “why bother? Nothing ever changes”. State two this is the state we call state of coping and the acronym here is H/L . Being high involuntary adoption and L being low voluntary adoption. And this state is a state where we may be reactive in terms of growth and where life forces someone to adapt through unexpected challenges.

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00:15:01:10 - 00:15:29:18

Anks

Now, growth here might happen unintentionally and it may put you in survival mode, but the lessons here, although they may be learnt, they may remain surface level if they aren't translated into anything meaningful or adopted for long term action. So often in this state, there might be emotional drain or fatigue, right? We might be operating in crisis mode.

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00:15:29:20 - 00:16:03:19

Anks

I've already said that we might be reactive. There might be a big sense of overwhelm here, of things that we actually can't control. But the mindset around this state would be, for example, someone saying, “well, I'm doing what I can just to get by”. Okay. If we look into state three and that is what we define as the state of misalignment, it has the acronym L/H, which is low involuntary adoption and high voluntary adoption.

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00:16:03:21 - 00:16:32:16

Anks

Now in this state there is intentional growth, right? There is effort here in terms of how we pursue our sense of development, of personal development. But there is a lack of alignment with the natural lessons that we're receiving from the universe and from life. And often the result of that is frustration, because the actions fail to address any deeper need or truth.

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00:16:32:18 - 00:17:06:20

Anks

Growth in this aspect often feels fragmented, and it might be unfulfilling even we put even when we put in so much effort into our personal development, certain characteristics might have a tendency, really, to ignore the emotional and situational feedback that life is given us, there might be overemphasis on productivity, and without having any sort of meaningful reflection within it.

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00:17:06:22 - 00:17:40:18

Anks

And there might be a disconnection often that's come from outcomes and personal effort. And the mindset in this state is probably someone saying, “I'm trying really hard, but something feels off”. And finally, we're here on the last state of adoption, which is number four, state of flow. And this is and this has an acronym of H/H where we have high involuntary adoption and high voluntary adoption.

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00:17:40:23 - 00:18:20:07

Anks

And this is really an optimal state where there's flow, there’s balance, where there's adoption from the life lessons as well as intentional action aligned with them, integrated and growth naturally feels purposeful. It's meaningful and fulfilling. Challenges often in this or state are seen as opportunities which then create momentum towards more meaningful progress. Characteristics in this state might have a sense of harmony.

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00:18:20:09 - 00:18:52:11

Anks

There's openness, perhaps emotional resilience and adaptability to change. There might be clearer alignment in terms of our actions, the values and goals. But in this mindset, the person probably would be saying, “I'm learning and growing and it feels right”. Often I've been in this flow myself. I'm sure you could relate, whoever's listening. There isn't something here that nobody's ever felt before.

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00:18:52:11 - 00:19:23:09

Anks

I'm sure, like myself, we've been in one of these states more than once, and we've never really stayed in one state, like, what I'm not suggesting here is that the optimal state, which is a state of flow, which is the fourth one that we always remain there, it's perhaps impossible for us to do so because it depends on the challenge and that come our way.

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00:19:23:11 - 00:20:02:16

Anks

So again, it's very dynamic, it's fluid, and depending situationally where we are, you would dip into one of these quadrants. But the main thing here is how do we get ourselves back heading in the right direction, making continual progress. So if you're following along with the downloadable resource, then you'll find that there's additional information, tools, examples, and how you can best utilise this through reflective questioning yourself.

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00:20:02:18 - 00:20:37:06

Anks

It's something for you to explore and go into. And so to help illustrate the concept of involuntary involuntary growth, especially in terms of this quadrant and how I'm using it today, I want to share that deep personal story with you, because it's an event that challenged the mindset of our family. It tested our resiliency, and ultimately it reinforced the lessons of growth in ways we couldn't have predicted.

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00:20:37:08 - 00:21:06:18

Anks

This story started September 10th, 2020, and I'm not the kind of person that usually spends my time going out. But three men broke in and this was 11:00 in the evening, and they broke in with a large slab, ran upstairs, took everyone's mobile devices so we couldn't ring out, and they had everyone on the landing, with my two year old held at knifepoint.

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00:21:06:19 - 00:21:23:19

Anks

Now where was I? I actually was out for the one chance in a blue moon. A friend asked me to come and join him for a drink. I went out, I was reluctant, I remember I was telling my wife that, you know, I don't really feel like going out. And she said, “you should go, you hardly go out”.

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00:21:23:22 - 00:21:49:08

Anks

And so on that day, I went out and you could imagine the feeling I got when I got the call. I want to explain to you that we were given two signals prior to this event. Those two occasions, and the first occasion was first, my mother and father, who had gone out and forgot the keys when they came back, they had locked themselves out.

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00:21:49:10 - 00:22:10:21

Anks

And so my dad, who found something close as possible to metal something, had wedged it into the door and he managed to get in within about five minutes. That was the first occasion. It was the first signal, if you will, and then from that point it was on our maintenance list. We knew the door needed to be fixed, budgeted

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00:22:10:21 - 00:22:35:00

Anks

tt, fixed it in place just to replace what my dad had done. But that was on the priority list the second time it happened was when my mom and my wife went out shopping. They came home and they had also forgotten the keys. They broke in again. And so you can imagine the state of the door. It's on our to do list.

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00:22:35:02 - 00:23:00:10

Anks

But if you can relate that there is always something more important to do, often we are prioritising things that don't necessarily have urgency or importance to it, but we make it so. Sure enough that they came September the 10th, we were robbed and it happened so quick. And when I got that call, you can imagine the shock in the moment. As much as as a shock

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00:23:00:10 - 00:23:29:12

Anks

It was the state that my family would have been in that was really at the top of my mind. In the end of all of this, we actually benefited, and we benefited more from having the experience than not having the experience. Does that mean I'm saying, well, we should embrace every experience with open arms, especially experiences like this, which are really harsh.

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00:23:29:14 - 00:24:04:15

Anks

No, I'm not, because what we'll find is depending on the type of experience and where we are in our journeys, where you are right now experiencing something that nobody else knows about, it really does depend on where you find yourself on that quadrant, and embracing this tool as a way to keep you progressing, keep you moving, avoid stagnation, immobilisation, and to keep us moving in a path that is going to be productive and progressive for us.

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00:24:04:16 - 00:24:32:01

Anks

Now, will you utilize this tool on day one? Perhaps not. Perhaps you're going to internalise it first and see and learn and shift a belief system. Shift your perspective. But the point here is, the more you can begin to appreciate and understand the lesson here of what growth is trying to do, and the fact that we have the intention and intervention working together.

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00:24:32:03 - 00:25:03:07

Anks

The more resilient you become in progressing forward the way in which you'd like to progress forward. Even in the experience that we had, momentarily, really, the first thing on my mind was, well, I've got a great tool to overcome this. We're reactive to the environment, We can be in, especially in harsher situations like this, where we're just trying to put the pieces together and trying to make sense of really what's happening.

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00:25:03:07 - 00:25:29:01

Anks

And the, you know, the shock value here is, is, is higher. But ultimately it's where we end up and what we do from once we are calmer and we have a sense of perspective, we can then choose to do something about it. And that is ultimately what I'm talking about here. But we let me break this down for you.

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00:25:29:01 - 00:25:56:08

Anks

Let's let's jump into this how and which state I was in. To make this digestible for you. I'm just going to speak of the breakdown into three states. So we have the first, which is initial state. You have the second, which is the catalyst, which was the robbery. And then the final state I ended up in. So if I look at the first state and this is the initial state we were in, not just me as a family.

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00:25:56:10 - 00:26:32:15

Anks

This was before the robbery. We were in a state of misalignment, which is the third box, the bottom right hand corner, which was represented by L/H, which was a low involuntary adoption, but a high voluntary adoption. And that is because we had a voluntary awareness. We knew and we had the intention to fix the door, but we failed to adopt the involuntary lessons that life was signaling us through

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00:26:32:15 - 00:27:03:22

Anks

two previous lockouts. That's the initial state. What preceded that was the catalyst, which is the second stage, and that is when with the robbery occurred, that shifted us into the coping state, which is represented by H/L, high involuntary and low voluntary, that on the quadrant you'll find on number two box, which is the top left hand corner.

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00:27:04:00 - 00:27:37:09

Anks

And it's here that we are reactive. Perhaps in survival mode, because we're making sure that everyone is safe and unhurt. We're thinking about what just happened and so our primary focus here is invested in this state. For us as a family we've been through many of these interventions, life experiences. So our sense of resiliency to bounce back from situations like this is quicker.

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00:27:37:11 - 00:28:07:04

Anks

And we entered a reflective state very quickly, which is the third final stage here. And in that reflecting, reflecting stage, we took action. That was a process of, you know, filing all the paperwork with the police. In fact, the point that we benefited is we got a new door, we got all the money back that we lost, plus more.

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00:28:07:06 - 00:28:37:21

Anks

And in this state of flow, now that we're in, which is represented with H/H, which is a high involuntary and high voluntary, both the intention and intervention are aligned here because this allowed us now to recover and grow quickly from the event. We recovered all the funds that were lost. We installed new cameras, we become more aware and agile.

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00:28:37:21 - 00:29:05:08

Anks

So we're listening more to what the interventions are saying, are signaling our awareness of the signals are higher and we just bounce back and move quicker. We let things pass and we keep focusing on what we can do right now and the control we have. Now, anyone would agree would do anything to avoid any kind of quick, any sort of pain.

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00:29:05:10 - 00:29:31:13

Anks

But what's the profound truth here? The truth is that life is happening for us, not to us. The favor is always in our court. Now, think of it. Think of the alternative to this. If we were the type of family or type of individuals that had a real poor mindset, we wouldn't be in flow. We wouldn't end up there.

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00:29:31:15 - 00:29:59:17

Anks

Even though we knew that the door needed to be fixed. After the event, we still got back into flow. But what if we had the pool mindset? Would we'd actually slip back down to a state of stuckness, which is where victim mentality resides? We'd have this “why us” mentality. All this, all this is happening to me. We might have had emotional paralysis, right?

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00:29:59:17 - 00:30:29:04

Anks

We have this overwhelming feeling which can lead to sort of inaction and immobilisation. I could spend the next 3 or 4 days, maybe a week, for some, a month maybe where we're draining our mental energy and we're lacking in progress. It's hard to tell where you'd end up, depending on which circumstance or challenge or where you are on your journey, where you would end up in this quadrant.

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00:30:29:06 - 00:30:52:18

Anks

But one thing we do know for sure is we know where we're headed and we need to be headed towards the flow state where we have high involuntary adoption. We are taking the lessons that life has given us. We're reflecting on them, incorporating them. And we have high voluntary adoption, which means we are taking action from it.

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00:30:52:18 - 00:31:30:16

Anks

We are changing, shifting, adapting, integrating. So if you have been following along here with the resource, I encourage you to really look in, look at this powerful tool and you can look at it from top level. If you have to. So for example, let's take health as an example. If you're trying to lose weight, not only from the top level but down to the detail, circumstantially; so top level for example, might be well, let's take an example.

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00:31:30:16 - 00:32:01:17

Anks

If you're trying to lose weight, let's say we're trying to work my health. And you can look at this quadrant and try to find out really what is where are my lacking in the growth? Ultimately questioning, do I have higher or lower involuntary adoption? And do I have higher or lower voluntary adoption? Because ultimately the optimal state is where you have high involuntary and high voluntary.

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00:32:01:19 - 00:32:33:18

Anks

So for example, you may have a family history of diabetes, for example, where you have experiences forces that are signaled, interventions that stop you from eating sugary things or consistent reminders. These are involuntary lessons, and you might not be doing anything about it. You might be still eating a load of sweets and junk food. And so trying to merge the intervention and intervention together for you to really be effective in how you progress and move forward.

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00:32:33:20 - 00:33:02:21

Anks

The key thing here is getting our mind around these two forms involuntary and voluntary. And using a tool like this for pre-action rather than post-reaction. It's a prevention. It's a pre-planning aspect to growth. Rather than being or finding yourself in a situation where you don't know what to do, the question is, can you remain in state flow?

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00:33:02:21 - 00:33:36:00

Anks

Can you be in a progressive state? Can you consistently be adaptable and effective? And now it's great me saying these things, but the real power that you have comes from ‘self-questioning’ do you want to remain stuck? Ask yourself, do you want to remain in a reactive or would you prefer to be proactive? Perhaps you are someone who likes for things to settle down before you make a move?

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00:33:36:02 - 00:34:06:18

Anks

Could we change that? Or perhaps well, everything's going right, right now, so, you know, we'll wait until it doesn't. So as you're listening to this episode and you're looking at the resource, I want you to start thinking about where you are on your growth relationship and this partnership, looking at the growth adaptability chart to perhaps do a self-assessment yourself.

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00:34:06:20 - 00:34:45:07

Anks

And so I'm just going to quickly break it down for you how you can go about beginning that. Firstly, choose an experience. What are you going through right now?  Is this something specific? Is there a challenge, perhaps is a goal or a certain situation? Whether it's personal, professional, relational? And so what we're going to do here is we're going to take voluntary and voluntary separately, do a reflective self questioning to find out where we are in terms of identifying whether it's high or low engagement.

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00:34:45:09 - 00:35:13:08

Anks

So if we start with involuntary, you might have a certain set of questions which might sound something like am “I resisting or ignoring any of these challenges?” And you're thinking about this specific experience. “Have I taken the time to reflect on what this experience is teaching me?” Or you might be saying, “am I letting my emotions like fear, anger, or frustration block me from learning?”

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00:35:13:10 - 00:35:52:22

Anks

And ultimately what we want to do is I identify in this involuntary section whether we have a low or high engagement. And so if it',  if you deem it to be lower than you're in the bottom quadrants, which is 1 in 3 stuckness and misalignment. And if you find that you identify yourself as someone who is a higher engagement, then you would find yourself on the chart in the upper quadrants, the two upper quadrants, which is number 2 and number 4, coping or flowing like you'd explore.

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00:35:53:03 - 00:36:19:23

Anks

That's the involuntary side. You'll explore the voluntary side in the very same way. So you'd ask questions like, well “am I actively working to improve or resolve this experience?” You might say, “am I consistent in taking the steps forward?” Or am I procrastinating or avoiding?” Perhaps you might say something like, “have I set aside goals or plans related to the situation?”

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00:36:20:01 - 00:36:50:00

Anks

Again, we are trying to identify low and high action, and if you identify that you're generally in a lower action, adoption, then you can plot yourself on the left hand two boxes, 1 and 2, stuckness and coping. Alternatively, if you find yourself on a higher action, you'd find yourself on the right hand side of the quadrants, which is 3 and 4, which is misalignment and flow.

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00:36:50:02 - 00:37:17:20

Anks

Now there's further details in this resource with other various tools and practices that you could use in order to get you from that state to a more progressive, higher state. Ultimately, for you to be a lot more effective in your life and where you're going, how you decide what actions you take, how you adopt, the lessons that you cannot control.

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00:37:17:22 - 00:37:36:18

Anks

Hey, listen, if you've kicked it with me this far, then I appreciate you. Thanks for listening. You’re definitely well on your way to nurturing and building this relationship with growth, I want to leave you with three quick takeaways. First of all, if you haven't caught your already, growth has two forms of voluntary and involuntary. And friends, you need both.

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00:37:36:20 - 00:38:03:15

Anks

Number two challenges don't automatically lead to growth because you, my friend, have to do something about it. We have to be in flow state and merge intention with intervention. Take some time today to reflect on where you are with your relationship with growth. And if this episode resonated with you, then I'd love to hear your insights. Until next time, let's flow.

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